speaking of prayer
ok you guys another question. Personally I was raised with the Lord's prayer and it doesn't bother me but I'm not a Christian anymore and it has occured to me that AA being "not religious" uses it to...
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I was a newcomer 16 months ago so I only know what i've got so far, again it's my view and I know better then to be the kind of person you describe. Being spiritual not religious is just a big part of...
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You know, the only mindsets that would have scared me away from AA early on were ones of intolerance, judgementalism, or indifference, and fortunately, I didn't encounter any of that. I was all ready...
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Sorry I'm responding to speaking of prayer. Didn't know how to get in and write my own message. I rarely write, though I read this everday. It's part of my morning ritual before I go to my morning...
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"You sure sound pissed off all the time Planter Jim?" Not really. I just get fed up with those who come to AA begging for help, "Oh please help me I'll do anything, please, just tell me what to do,"...
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And it's a dang good thing you added that *, Jim. I was ready to call said PC police and have your picture distorted by the Adobe Photoshop Ninjas. . .
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"And it's a dang good thing you added that *, Jim. I was ready to call said PC police and have your picture distorted by the Adobe Photoshop Ninjas. . ." That'd be a total waste of time and effort,...
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Jackie, My prayers are with you during this tough time. Your friend, Rob
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By someone's grace, I have 27 months of sobriety now. No, I didn't get it the first time when the judge sent me to AA after my first DUI. And, no, I didn't get it the second time when the judge (same...
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My ego tells me that if I do it everyone else must also do it, and if I don't do it no one else does it. As an untreated alcoholic in AA my ego tells me I'm an atheist everyone else is an atheist (or...
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From: Planter Jim Sent: 8/20/2008 5:32 PM So tell me, ribeye, do you wait till after the Serenity Prayer before you walk into a meeting??? ...Read More
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From: Planter Jim Sent: 8/25/2008 1:29 PM "You sure sound pissed off all the time Planter Jim?" Not really. I just...Read More
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Michael, As you know, the only requirement for AA Membership is a desire to stop drinking. If your desire not to drink is stronger than your desire to drink; then you will pick up the kit of tools...
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Michael, "If you have decided you want what we have and are willing to go to any length to get it - then you are ready to take certain steps." If I'm not ready to take the steps, I'm probably not...
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Hi Ribeye, think it defeats AA's profession of open mindedness to use religion specific prayer. I feel momentum of others pressuring people. We can't know for certain why people don't come back to a...
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I have had many continuous years of abstinance from alcohol and drugs. I have researched athiest AA meetings and they are not in my local area. I have participated in the start of a few meetings but...
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Hey Michael! Good to hear from you. This has been a very cool thread with civil responses of love and tolerance, although there have been conflicting points of view. Obviously you are not going to...
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Robbie, In the formal readings at the opening of our Jerusalem meeting (except for reading the Steps as written) we use Higher Power throughout. Individuals referring to their HP in shares are free to...
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My name is Dan and I am an alcoholic As stated in tradition 4 each group is autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or AA as a whole. There are a lot of groups up here that choose to close...
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